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Grafts done today....
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:09:48 PM »
Grafted these few babies at dusk. Sadly, I can't see very well when the light goes down... meaning I can't tell which end is up on my seedlings so I had to quite partway through this run of grafts.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 08:21:56 PM »
Another small batch of grafts done today...
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 10:05:18 PM »
Don't know how you wrap them without disturbing them.  Personally, I've been using a humidity dome with good results.  Never been able to wrap or use elastics.  Grafts fail when I do.  How tall were those plants when they were chopped?  The reason I'm asking is my most successful grafts were onto large, well rooted stock.   So I'm trying now to only graft to plants I let grow very tall, then cut low and graft onto the new growth off that low cut.  The theory being that since root growth is retarded after the graft, the cultivator must allow for the greatest amount of root development for the speediest scion growth.  What do you think? 

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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 05:09:17 AM »
I’ve grafted cuts of Pereskiopsis that were not actively growing without roots just 2 inches high. With that said, I 100% agree with you that large well rooted actively growing stock is the way to go if you want to get the fastest growth possible out of your scion from your stock. The fact is that the stock you see here was only rooted for two weeks in and was perhaps just an inch or two taller than what you see here.

I’ve also used humidity domes with good results. I make it a practice to practice each and every grafting style I come across until I become proficient at it. Only then can I judge what the merits of it are effectively as well as any pitfalls and they all have pluses and minuses. 

Wraps such as cling wraps require a bit more hand eye dexterity than paraflim requires. Both plastics such as cling wraps and parafilm require one to understand that the pressure is greatly increased by the twisting motion of the wrap and because of this many times these fail because too much pressure is applied. Many people beginning those types of grafts never realize that they are putting too much pressure on their grafts. Think no pressure, the wrap will literally provide you with all the pressure you need.

My parafilm method costs me less than 1 penny a graft. That is not a lot to invest in a graft. The parafilm breathes, but it also acts as a miniature humidity dome. You don’t have to remove the parafillm as the seedling will grow through the parafilm if you stretch it properly before grafting. What this means is that you can literally place your parafilm on your seedling and then forget about it. One of the pitfalls of this method is that the thicker ring of parafilm around your Pereskiopsis that one makes will sometimes not fall off after the graft has clearly taken. The solution to this is to learn to make a thinner ring or to take a razor blade and simply slice through that thin circular piece of parafilm well after the graft has taken. I can also water my Pereskiopsis each and every day from the day before, day of, and so on with this style of graft. It just forces the scion to grow faster. With humidity dome style grafting you could not do that.

Basic Procedure:
First remove all leaves where your wrap going around the Pereskiopsis will be.

Wrap the Pereskiopsis with a piece of parafilm that is one inch wide and thick before stretching. Stretch tight around Pereskiopsis while being careful not to put pressure on Pereskiopsis as too much pressure will crush your Pereskiopsis.

Cut the top off your Pereskiopsis and place your seedling off center that has been cut properly.

Take another 1 inch piece of parafilm and then stretch that out so you can see through it clearly. Gently place that over your seedling and gently lower down all sides so it does not disturb the seedlings position. You will find that this is easier said than done and when starting out your seedling will often drift. Learning how to control that drift will take some time, but it can be done. Expect to see your grafts that take increase dramatically within a few weeks of practicing this method. If your not already at 90-95% with your grafting you can expect to soon be there with just a little practice with this method.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 03:39:21 PM »
Okay, these didn't just get done today, but they are getting revealed today. More variegated freaks
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 06:18:33 PM »
For those that don't know... this is my winter feeding for my bog-ponics.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 08:07:52 AM »
To give you a good idea of how long I have cacti in water/fertilizer at this depth. These cacti were placed in the same bath at the same time and just now removed.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 08:10:15 AM »
This other group... they have been sitting in approximately this much water and nutrients for months. All pictures posted today were taken today.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2017, 09:59:14 AM »
Inyan, what is the white stuff on the leaves? 

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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2017, 10:02:14 AM »
And what is 'bog ponics'?  Advantages? 

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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 10:49:50 AM »
Bog-ponics is like hydroponics but with soil. I grow my cacti like they literally lived in a real bog. However, I amend the soil with bone meal and blood meal to give them solid nutrients as well. I can recycle the algae that grows from the fertilizer simply by scooping it up and putting it back in the pots with the cacti. I can't imagine an easier less expensive set up for growing your cacti and it really lets me flush the liquid fertilizers and salts out of the soil when I choose to do so as I simply have to stop giving liquid fertilizers for a bit and flush/grow with regular water that has not had nutrients added. The obvious advantages of hydroponics and soil growing are merged into one easy tech with this method.
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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2017, 12:04:05 PM »
So to change the water you are simply pulling the smaller bucket out of the larger?  How often to you do this?  Do you not encounter more problems with rot? 

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Re: Grafts done today....
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2017, 12:56:44 PM »
I pull my cacti sitting in strong liquid fertilizer up and place them in a larger bin full of water after a few hours to 24 hours as a general rule. i will then often leave my cacti in water for several months like this. I transfer them back to a rich fertilizer filled bucket whenever I fill they have slowed down in growth or I simply want to give them an extra push. This amounts to about twice per month as a minimum to get extra rich fertilizer like this on average. The rest of the time they get fertilizer that is much more diluted. The below picture... that is how they sit for months at a time with no problems.

As concerns your rot question, if you want your cacti to rot you will need to place the actual stem and leaves underwater for 24 hours or more if you want to be successful with getting them to rot. I don't do this so mine don't rot. In fact, I try not to let the leaves and stem submerge for more than a few hours if that. You will notice that where I keep them long term in the water... the water level is much lower. The water level for long term growing is generally kept at or just below the soil level for grafts such as Pereskiopsis and smaller cacti. Larger cacti will only have the bottom 2 inches of their pots soaking in water with several inches of soil being well above the water level.

Another good way to get your cacti to rot with this method is to use freshly cut cacti versus well calloused cacti.
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Bog-ponics continued
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2017, 04:03:43 PM »
Just an update for those following. These have been in the bog since last I posted.
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Sploding
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2017, 04:06:29 PM »
This is what happens when I make em splode. Stay tuned for the after splosion
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