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Argyreia Nervosa
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:51:10 PM »
already needs a new pot. 

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 04:30:13 PM »
This one grows very fast. I've had this one flower and reach the top of a tree I planted it under in less than a year. Gathering the seeds from so high up though can prove difficult as in my experience it does not like to flower till it reaches the top of the tree.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2015, 11:37:20 PM »
it will be tricky for sure.  it's going to have to be trellised for a while.  i don't expect to see flowers for a couple of years.  i figure i'll keep it potted up for two years and then plant it the following spring.  still a nice foliage plant though. 

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 07:12:31 PM »
Inyan, where did you have the plant produce flowers? I hear of people on other forums that have a hard time getting it to flower in FL, USA.

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 10:12:52 PM »
Saint Augustine Florida. The trick for me at least, to get this one to flower is to let it travel up a tree. I've grown it on bushes and it will not flower at 5 or even 10 ft in height. Flowers only form at 20+ ft in height. That was my experience mind you I only grew a few of these so I'm by no means an expert on them. Heavy watering and heavy fertilizer is also a must as these like to grow fast. If you grow them in a small pot you will stunt their growth. In a similar way, B. cappi will grow slow if started in a small pot unless you can encourage some fresh growth from nodes under the soil to get that rapid growth back. I should add, the flowers only formed at the top of the tree and they were in way shaded by any other trees or structures. I believe full sun and height play a critical role in getting this one to flower.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 12:15:15 AM »
do you think that one there will flower in one season or should i keep it potted up for a couple of years and then run it up a tree? 

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 06:23:47 PM »
I've never attempted to grow that one outside of Florida, but my honest guess is that you won't have enough time to get it to do what you want unless perhaps you can really enrich the soil and aerate it which is going to be hard at the base of a large tree and even then I'm betting you probably won't have much luck. Still, these are inexpensive enough to give it a whirl.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 10:49:52 PM »
well i'll give it a shot this summer.  i'll post the results either way.  but i don't have high expectations at this point. 

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 11:24:15 PM »
Laughing with you, but you never know what you or your little seedling is capable of until you push it. My money is definitely not in your favor on this one though if I had to bet. I can tell you that if you can keep the soil well aerated this helps, but you want the soil to be able to retain moisture as well. Think moist and aerated, but not waterlogged... at least for more than a few hours. Another way to think about this is if your able to get flowers that far up north you may very well be the first to do so. Either way, you will be able to see this plant in a much more fuller and healthier form than you would be able to see inside the house.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 11:41:06 PM »
well it's moving into a larger home to pump up a bit more till spring.  then i was thinking about cutting the bottom off of a barrel and putting it beside this tree.  i'll sup up the soil in the barrel and do what i can for the soil on the ground.  i think it could be done, but it would need to be in a greenhouse in a humungous pot for a couple of years first.  if worst comes to worst i can always glue some flowers to it and take a picture. 

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2015, 07:18:55 PM »
I like the idea of gluing flowers to it. I think that just might work in your neck of the woods. I like to dream big as without dreams your not going anywhere. Given the right setup and the right green thumb I think it might be possible. Possible.... and your plan sounds reasonable enough.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 11:25:09 PM »
Inyan do you know if cuttings are easy to root?

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2015, 03:01:27 AM »
I'd say they're pretty easy to root. I took 6 cuttings and had 3 root. Used rooting powder on the cuts and just put all 6 in a little pot of normal soil and kept moist/wet. Here they are.
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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2015, 10:20:56 AM »
I really should sprout some seeds before spring.

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Re: Argyreia Nervosa
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2015, 07:45:07 PM »
I've never tried to root cuttings of this one. I tend to like to air layer with vines myself as I find that rooting is 100% with that method and the plants are generally stronger and bigger than they would be otherwise. Sorry I didn't weigh in sooner on this. As for my method of air layering with vines I always bury at least one node if not two under the soil. This is an especially good method for getting your B. cappi vines to really take off in girth as well as speed. In warmer areas where the plants can be hit and freeze back... if sufficient nodes remain untapped under the ground and kept from freezing... i.e. you don't have the ground freeze you can have your vines spring back from this with the full support of the previous years root system to really give them a boost in growth. Take B. cappi for instance, it is fairly easy to grow from cuttings, but I've never gotten 100% success rates with cuttings on a consistent basis.
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