the daily cactus ( annie report)

[anne halonium]

KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE

tell me more.
i might be feeling it.
i have a new grow configuration that id like to test,.................physically and mentally.

[Backyard-Chief]

indeed!  madam, the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE is quite simple superficially, but increases in complexity proportionate to the swelling profundity of the participant.  it works like this:  just read one book by Jiddu Krishnamurti, then eat 1+ foot of cactus or equivalent (legally of course!) and describe your experience.  the smartest brain thoughts win the BIG BIG MONEY!!!

[anne halonium]

gawd i have to read?
(i mean my maid has to read)

i got thru HS and college having the maid read cliff notes................

actually im not reading averse, and thats pry the easy part.
my thing lately is no time for cactus on the cob .
its killing me.
i used to have endless time to trip,
the new economy keeps me time defecient.


^ that said im still into the idea.


noticed some new members.........
welcome.

hey chief,
what happened to the lophs in hydro mason jars?
that one intrigued me.

also,
we have a number of members who are  XHTTL capable, and successful.
yet many other forums are floundering with slow moving grafts.
why is that?

the boomery / shroomery 2016 graft contest is so sad,
someone should swoop and sweep up.
i get discouraged seeing those guys flounder endlessly.

im always baffled that the tech is available, but not widely applied.
what am i missing?

[Backyard-Chief]

the mason jar cacti are rerooting madam.  the speaker found them painfully difficult to maintain given the particulars of the set up, at least relative to growing nine per three inch pot.  the shape of the cups, the unscrewing of the lids...  but the speaker has not given up on your method.  the short lived experiment certainly proved there is validity to what you present.  soil will have to do for now.  there are still many subtleties to discern regarding soil for lophs, pereskiopsis, and trichocereus. 

what is time anyways madam?  certainly we see that the self, or i process is composed of the past.  that is, the residual experience recorded by the brain, splits experiencing into the experiencer and the experienced, thereby creating the self and the subjective environment. memory, or time, is the result of this capacity to store residual experience.  so then consciousness, is the cumulative relationship between the capacity to store experience residually and the environment free of subjectivity.  understanding then, is the movement towards congruency with the what is. whereas memory, is the residue left on the brain through incomplete experience.  so we see that there is both memory and understanding stored by the brain to bring about the subjective approximation of self and that of environment, the experiencer and the experienced.  certainly there is a force that cleaves the divide between memory and understanding.  only together can we discern what is that force.  in isolation, that force will forever remain a mystery.  that is the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE madam.  that is right relationship. 

so then what is it to be time deficient?  fundamentally?  what is it madam, to find the self without time?     

[anne halonium]

sounds complex


i sorta evolved to the " zen of the moment" type attitude.
i tend to live exactly in the second im in.

believe it or not,
alot of my teks come to me in a" no thought mode" almost like a meditation.
the stuff just comes to me, and i dont know why.

poms/ hydro cactus , and grow variants all essentially came to me in dreams.

as for the cactus thing, the problemo is in the lids.
were working on a milk bottle version with 7-8 head per container. ( PINT SIZE)

note,
i am no longer on nexus.
extreme censorship led to a ban.
i no longer endorse them.

alot of forums are victims of success.
at first they are good, but then eventually they fill with kids and trolls.
the primary need to pay for the site, prefers numbers of clicks at the expense of info.
people see this, then the sites degrade further,
as actual growers flee from the rising swamp of self reinforcing  noobs.

thankfully this site keeps it clean and info based.
i believe thats what really drives a good forum............the teks.
people will always migrate for the grow info.

any forum that banks on waves of noobs for numbers, at the expense of good teks, is eventually doomed.
mycotopia, nexus, mycotek, all have been greatly damaged by this practice.

let us not fall into that pit.

i am building up for some new teks here however...................

[Backyard-Chief]

certainly the complexity is in the layers of subjectivity that exist between the capacity to accumulate experience and actuality.  the ideals.  the approximations of the self.  the approximations of environment.  the associations tied to things, concepts, to people.  certainly that is what is most complex. 

as for your techs coming to you in those moments of inner silence, those moments without conflict, without duality, that is undoubtably true.  isn't it so madam, that truth cannot be sought after?  cannot be chased psychologically?  that truth, is not something we can pursue, but rather something that is constantly bombarding the senses for the entirety of our existence?  isn't it so, that truth is that indefinable movement from which we have/are emerged/submerged?  and that it is subjectivity, with its fears, its approximations, its beliefs, its preconceptions, that destroy truth?  that destroy understanding? 

if that is so madam, then it is discernible that your techs came into your consciousness in those moments of stillness.  for truth, understanding, is coming to you, not the other way around.  if we watch very closely, in ourselves, around us, then we can see that truth is never something we can chase down and apprehend.  instead it is our senses that reflect it.  but the reflective capacity is weakened by the imposition of subjectivity, of seeking, of belief and preconception.  isn't that so madam?  that we are deeply immersed in understanding - but so often we are wearing the scuba suit of subjectivity.

so what does it mean to be deficient of time?  what do we mean by time?  there is chronological time.  and certainly you are not deficient of that.  you are a relatively young woman.  healthy.  intelligent.  so you are not deficient in time chronologically.  then, there is psychological time.  memory, as it accumulates, creates time.  it creates the past, and then uses the past, through the present to project expectation.  the accumulation of memory forms subjectivity.  and subjectivity brings about compulsion.  surely one could, theoretically, sit under a tree in this supposed state of non duality, drooling and such, completely free of the layers of subjective thought, and free up a tremendous amount of time. 

but that will not occur.  instead, the elements of memory, build compulsion.  time, which is memory, builds impulse through the accumulation of self approximation and expectation.  put differently, the self learns, through the aggregation of experience, to perceive through certain layers of expectation.  and that is what has happened to your time.  chronologically there is an abundance of time, but psychologically, there is constraint, inwardly there is expectation.  there is the seeking of a certain approximation of the self - the future.  so we live within the shadow of this approximation.  isn't that is madam?  isn't that what happened to your time?         



 

[anne halonium]

ya ive tried analyzing it all...................

in my world i wake up, and peeps have to get high , get laid and get paid.
and everyone is incompetent kids, including my maid.

so naturally i have to do it all and then some, or the whole system breaks down.

when i was infinitely rich, it was easier as i could farm stuff out/ outsource.
now that i live in dire abject grinding poverty, i actually have to spearhead projects myself.
this is both a time and buzzkill, and really inhibits the larger goal of global insta hallucinogens.

^ i know............... dont ya hate it when that train slows down.......................

im thinking we need a good seed tek here.
stuff i read on the forums , indicates people really have a hard time with seeds and sprouting.
and we need a graft contest also.

im also wondering if we should expand a little past cactus.............
most forums are filled with rehash and rumor and speculation.
we have the potential to keep it clean and add some showcase teks in general.

[Backyard-Chief]

indeed, a seed tek would be ideal.  perhaps a soil tek for lophophora grown on its own roots..  even some experimentation with regard to lighting for lophs grown on their own roots.  the speaker recently spoke with someone who asserts that a 4 cm plant, grown on its own roots from seed is quite possible in 1-1.5 years with proper care.  but many factors must be nailed. 

it is discernibly necessary to move past the cactus.  as the cactus is merely one integrated component of actuality. and actuality, mechanically, is the you and the speaker.  we may have our particular differences subjectively, historically, but mechanically, abstractly, we are the same not only as each other, but as the cactus which brings us together.   

so we see that peeps must get high.  they must get paid and laid.  this is compulsion.  the self, which is the accumulator of experience, of memory, of the past, extrapolates the past through the present to conceptualize the future.  conceptualization creates insufficiency in the present, which is compulsion, drive, the need to get paid, laid, or sit in the shade. 

now, incompetence arises only through comparison.  for there to be incompetent, there must be the comparative idea of competent.  and for the self to approximate the other as incompetent, there must be the ideation that the self is comparatively more competent.  this is surely one of the gross examples of subjectivity.  there are others, which are considerably more subtle. 

then there is the matter of the system.  the system, while gross with particulars, can be subtle with regard to subjectivity.  the system is the relationship between the individual and the many.  and it is the cumulative individual compulsions that engender and sustain the system.  so naturally, it breaks down in the absence of compulsion. 

then we have the matter of analysis.  madam, is self awareness through analysis a possibility?  can one consider the self, which is the past, and bring about an understanding of the process of the i mechanically or will the consideration of the past merely bring about an understanding of what the self is subjectively?  does not the very movement of self consideration refurbish the approximation of the self, and never deepen the understanding of the self as a process?   

next, there is the matter of global insta hallucinations.  to the speaker, there is already an expansive global hallucination called subjectivity.  there is reality, which is mutually discernible, and then there is subjectivity, which is the cause of conflict both inwardly and outwardly.  that is, the world is split nationalistically, religiously, financially, politically, and socially- quite systemically.  madam, when the you, and the i, speak of this global insta hallucination, are we not speaking of a movement along the same plane of consciousness?  the same plane of consideration?  madam, what to you, is global insta hallucination?     

[anne halonium]

global insta hallucinogens ya say?

yes. and cactus foremost.
i believe everyone on earth should have access to high quality hallucinogens.
especially the natural ones.
and i believe in using the most advanced grow teks we can use,
for speed, encouraging biodiversity, and science in general.

i also think we need to prep for " plants in space" ( moon / mars)
and plants on space stations.
my experiments have shown cacti are ready for space.......................
someone is gonna eat a loph on mars sooner or later .
^ annie will be exactly there.

so the idea of hyper cacti and other natural hallucinogens, ready to go, appeals to me.


the medical pot people won the medicine because they grew alot of pot.
they do it with the best teks and equip they can find.
activists, made alot of noise fer sure........
BUT , the cannabis war was won thru tek and supply and manpower............

in the new age, humanity is pressed by a rapid loss of biodiversity.
peeps need to make an effort to stop the loss.

alot of cacti are rare or in some degree of danger.
i believe all wild molesting of cacti should CEASE,
and only farm grown cacti be acceptable to the community.

i know some people hate me spoiling the fun on that,
but fact is , teks exist to make almost anyone self sustaining on cacti in 12-18 months.
^
so, when i do my teks, or publish anything , thats the point.

and yes chief , i agree lophs done right are pretty fast.
4 cm in that amount of time  done natural is reasonable. ( 18 months)

^ keep in mind , hydro cacti can do almost 2cm a month under LED.

( i keep forgetting i haven shown any nylon ones yet)




ok,
the mystical stuff.
i see where your at.
i just hate writing about stuff like that, or trip reports.
in some ways, this stuff is powerful and personal to the pro tripper.........
im in the , " understand but sorta speechless " camp mostly.


this thread is becoming the " ask annie anything corner"
good.
i dont want general BS about me spilling into other threads.

ive decided that the next thread is gonna be " annies attic and archives of cactus odditys"
we need something with some pizzazz.
^ it will work like this.
about every day or so, im gonna post a  set of pictures of cacti on a topic.
and then comment and take questions.
ill pic the focus pictures as we roll with it.
it will be a picture based thing, ill keep comments minimal
any legit question will fly, and you guys can add pics also ( encouraged)
it should a good general primer for all types of cactus experiments.
any thing off topic , or about me will be shifted to this thread.

tell all the friends.
check your archives next few days..........
im checking mine.

in the new age.......

[Backyard-Chief]

now what is belief, and what is discernment?  do you ever wonder what it is that cleaves this divide?  what divides belief, preconception, presupposition, approximation from discernment, understanding, truth, actuality, reality?  do you ever wonder what mechanically divides thought which is belief, and thought which is discernment? 

you see madam, the speaker has no beliefs, as to marry a concept to the self psychologically is to restrict one's thought/action/perception.  put differently, by saying 'i believe' one is then bound by internal logic and reasoning to adhere to a certain standard, to a certain preconception, at least partially.  therefore belief, mechanically, does effectively destroy/limit discernment/perception.   

so what is discernment?  surely discernment is perception free of subjectivity.  that is, to discern is to see oneself and the environment free of subjectivity.  that is, to meet the present free of the boundaries of the many limiting beliefs, both subtle and gross.

so we see that when we believe, when we meet the present through a screen of preconception, when we meet the present through the residual images of the past, we limit the capacity to palpate the pulse of actuality as an individual and therefore as a collective. that is, the collective result of belief is always conflict.  conflict between that which is considered and that which is.  one cannot, mechanically, meet actuality without obfuscation when seeing through the veil of belief. 

so that is why the speaker holds no beliefs.  that is why the speaker cannot immediately verify or deny your stance on any particular subject.  the speaker can only meet you in conversation free of subjective defensiveness and we, together, find out what is true. 

then there is the matter of if what we are discussing here is mystical?  to the speaker it is factual.  not some empty assertion.  we are meeting together in communion, discussing reality not mysticism.  but reality can become both mystical and factual through subjectivity.  that is, circumstance can be encapsulated by the brain as both factual or mystical, interesting or mundane, good or bad and so on. 

so the question then becomes, what is it that approximates certain similarities between our conversation and 'stuff like that' or 'trip reports'?  surely our conversation is unique and not the past. so can we, in actuality, encapsulate it with a certain definition?  what happens if we together have a conversation free of encapsulations?   

now, when something is personal, that is, when something is subjective, it is not actuality.  actuality is that which is discernible mutually, universally.  it comes about when all parties perceive without the subjective slant.  therefore the closest we will get to actuality is through the movement of mutual discernibility.  this is due to the very nature of awareness, that is, past, skews the present and conceptually creates the future. 

the speaker is not asking you to discuss yourself personally.  if we discuss ourselves personally we just widen the gap between the self and actuality.  rather the speaker suggests that we discuss what is actual, what is discernible mutually.  and when we meet each other in duality, conflicting opinion, we take this as an intimation that one or both of us is looking through the veil of subjectivity so therefore not seeing actuality.  when this happens and we don't identify, rationalize, or condemn our subjective stance, but instead look at it earnestly, we find out truly what is the self, what is reality.  relationship is consciousness and to be is to be related. 

now, is this not linguistically what is the psychedelic experience madam?  certainly it is not just elves and patterns?  but an unveiling of the self?  an unveiling of reality free of subjectivity?         

[anne halonium]

welcome keikee /new member.

for those watching the " annies attic thread"
gimme a minit, last week was distracting.
were gonna have alot of fun with that thread.

chief, i hear ya on alot of that stuff.
the cactus people do well to reflect deeply on such types of thought.
and we need more of that.

wich is why i have this thread going,
is so the peeps can wander/ wonder and wonder on various topics,
that the cactus mind can appreciate.


i do notice the new members.
im also hoping the see some pictures from some peeps soon.
id like to see this forum be strong on cactus pictures.


im thinking also, that this is a cactus forum,
BUT
it might be cool to have a very limited but solid link library and some archived stuff for reference.

[Backyard-Chief]

madam, it seems there is not much action on this forum.  just the speaker and the madam.  so perhaps we could discuss together what is right interest with regard to cactuses? 

[PsyDuckMonkey]

Hi Annie

I'm back I guess. Around this spring, shrooms got me off themselves for half a year... they have a tendency of doing this to me, but I guess it was for my own good. Just recently went back to the nexus and noticed you're not around anymore. I wonder what got you banned... Does it have anything to do with the psilocybin extraction topic?

I miss your tone of irreverence, it was a good spot of color in a crowd of zealots. Anyway, I'd really not dismiss the Nexus yet, despite its drawbacks. This place, though, would need some marketing. Are you still active here?

Anyway, I intend to kick off a Violet tek grow soon. Maybe get my hands wet with XHTTL. I've run out, as a friend and co-grower suffered a paranoiac / moral panic episode on shrooms, and destroyed the whole crop and a great majority of our spore prints.

[Backyard-Chief]

@psyduckmonkey,

sir, what does it mean to miss irreverence?  perhaps we can examine it together and find out.  perhaps sir, we can look at this problem earnestly to find out together what is real. 

now to 'miss' means, in this case, to notice the absence of something.  this implies memory of that thing which is missed.  irreverence is a perceived lack of respect.  so there is a perceived reduction in the general lack of respect since @annehalonium left the shroomery.  now this irreverence was not cast out in all directions, but specifically at those approximated as zealots.  so at @psyduckmonkey senses a insufficiency, due to expectation, of irreverence aimed at zealots. 

now insufficiency is preconception isn't it sir?  that is, they are two sides of the same medal.  the moment there is a predefined expectation that is not actualized, there is insufficiency.  so insufficiency is unfulfilled expectation.   

now if insufficiency is preconception what is a zealot?  surely a zealot is a term applied to an environmental encapsulation, and so it too is preconception.  that is, residual experience is encapsulated and labelled via comparison.  so for there to be zealousness, there must be comparison.  so for a sir to find comfort in irreverence of the zealot, there must too be internal irreverence.  and when that internal irreverence is circumstantiated, there is comfort, identification.  so mechanically, unactualized irreverence of zealousness engenders insufficiency.   

are we together so far sir? 

[PsyDuckMonkey]

Haha. Yes, something like that.

Anyway, let's inject some life into this grow forum.