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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2015, 08:50:01 PM »
Right on.  Have you noticed if the high nitrogen affects the look of the scion? 

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2015, 09:16:32 PM »
most of the time i go by the leaves and fresh growth.
if thats vigorous, its vigorous.

they do vary in color based on lights and nutes.

theres still work to be done on nute combos for sure.
im doing what works great, but there is still room to optimize
id like to break the 2cm month barrier...................
« Last Edit: May 14, 2015, 09:18:35 PM by anne halonium »

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2015, 06:26:07 PM »
wow that's fast.  if i may ask two more questions?
1.  do you pump in co2?
2.  ever try ebb and flow? 

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2015, 04:40:13 PM »
we have used CO2 in some experiments........
but not much.

we use no hormones

ebb and flow may work,
but one of the keys is to avoid root damage at all costs.

also consider part of the game is low energy, low power, low heat, low water,
and density of lophs in the system
tek was designed for minimalisim and performance, in the smallest possible area.

yes you can grow 1000 lophs in a few trays,
or you can grow 1000 in a whole closet.
we like the idea of extremely small, high output gardens.

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2015, 05:58:46 AM »
so the movement of an ebb and flow system might itself lead to root damage?  hmm.  what about a some kind of bubbler? 

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2015, 02:12:12 PM »
absolutely not on bubblers.......

lemme dig a pic up of what happens with bubblers.

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2015, 02:58:02 PM »
i just don't understand how stagnant water does not lead to issues.   i guess a good rinse one a week is enough. 

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015, 05:08:59 PM »
interesting question chief.............

you would think it would chief  but, theres a secret.

in our case, we change the water about every 3 weeks for starters.
sometimes we just let them run dry , and add water.

the ferts we use are not that strong....depending on light, 7-7-7 to 10-10-10 is good.
we also use tap water, and chlorination helps some also.

the big secret is this, "the size of containers and amount of water"


most peeps think of " annie", as primarily a ditzy grow girl that takes good pics.
my actual claim to fame is physics.
most of my pro lab experience is in physics labs.
(hence explaining the vast LED experience with all kinds of bio forms and power/ wavelengths)
of course , im also heavily pro trained in bio - chem .
BUT, i tend to solve bio issues thru physics/ engineering.

in this case, a SMALL amount of water, aerates and stays reasonably fresh for the few weeks it lasts.
larger tanks of water, would be problematic indeed.

it comes down to the physics of small things VS larger things and gas exchange.
in smaller containers, it works!

note the various containers i use, small tubes or small cups, sometimes flasks/ beakers.......
but NO bubblers..........
see the pics below showing bubbled VS un bubbled roots.
its pretty obvious.

oddly cactus can survive in water alone undisturbed rather well.
the killer is broken roots allowing bacteria , or NO aereation,
the air they get in small containers is plenty.
cactus roots are tough when dried, no so tough when saturated.

un broken and saturated, they maintain rather well, in SMALL water / containers.


of course we all think of cannabis and sea of green and lots of pumps bubblers and PH issues,
 and tanks of water to change.....
and in those cases , water can go sour quick.

^ quit thinking like that.........
were dealing with cactus, way more efficient on water, and less finicky to PH than avg cannabis.
the advantage is as shown in cups containers on trays. not tank farms like cannabis.

also consider, the smaller the better, less energy light or power and water.
less enables larger farms with less waste and effort.
why use 100 gallons a yr when ya can use 5?
or why light 20 sq ft, when you can light 4 sq feet ?
why use the extra power cables and fans?
why have tons of equpi to move, when now ya can slide a few trays into a plastic storage / cargo  box and go?
keep in mind, density and speed of crop is paramount, and all factor including sub wieght and space count!
less also means in combination with LED lights, that micro high yield grow spaces become apparent,
places not possible before...............

as for the joy of watering?
assume one has 24 cups, 4 grafts per cup.
thats 96 head .
when watering one dumps 24 cups and refills every 2 3 weeks.
ferts take seconds to mix.
i can water a 24 cup farm in about 15 clock minits.
every 2-3 months i let em dry out completely.

ok , so considering seed to golf balls in about 6-7 months............
that means i  actually water change about ten x total.
its not cannabis.....
peeps who have never done this complain about containers and watering time.
its a joke really,
anyone who cant change water 20x a yr on 2 trays to get a basket of lophs,
needs more than my teks to grow!

the teks are more engineered than peeps think.
over the decades, we tried everything,
and the most simplistic, actually works.
the stuff amazes us also.


even this tek is outdated to us.
weve made a quantum leap with something called " aerophora"
wich essentially is one shot pot, lophs/ peres root only on nylon, wich are merely misted
and retain lighting growth, without the whole peres stock,
enabling an extremely small garden foot print.


anyway, see the pics below.
ya dont need bubblers , the key is small amounts of water and small containers,
and naturally, very good airflow in the room, as a good evap rate, keeps down insects and mites.
first pic, bubbler damage , lifespan 4 months total.
second pic, lifespan over 2 yrs. ( and even still it didnt die, we just began using different containers.

gimme a chance to wed thru pics and ill find some more flask gardens..............

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 07:48:24 PM »
polycarbonate and glass flasks are fuin to use also.

put pereskiopsis in flasks and let em grow, graft as needed.

naturally ya want dense confident looking roots.
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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2015, 07:56:17 PM »
Surface area to volume.  Makes sense.  Surely this won't work with stock other than Peres?  Nice to hear that peres are unaffected by chlorination. Ive been pointlessly letting my water sit out I guess. 
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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2015, 08:00:16 PM »
other things may work also.......
we have our limits.

but yes , you can grow the ultra golf ball-0-phora under exotic lights and water systems........
but..
why?

its more efficient NOT to!

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2015, 08:09:04 PM »
the cup method beats the more dramatic methods for almost all reasons.
as stupid as it sounds, hydro cactus likes drinking from cups.
the simple cup, meets the need.
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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2015, 03:46:17 AM »
Wow I am absolutely blown away at this cultivation method. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge here at sacred cactus :)

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2015, 09:05:43 PM »
good to see you back in action!

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Re: anne halonium / XHTTL / hydro lophophora showcase
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2015, 02:33:30 PM »
always in action..............

just sometimes im at sea, between forum islands.
i hold great hope for this forum,
as it appears were all off to a really good start!

stay tuned, definitely more to come..........